Drug Addicts: Drug Addiction Facts

Question: If drugs and alcohol are used as an emotional crutch, why would some atheist be an alcoholic or drug addict?

(Posted by: Really Now? on 2009-10-01 02:49:43)

I thought that the popular opinion was that they don't need emotional or spiritual crutches? So what would be the point of some of them proclaiming that they don't need the fearful crutch of God and religion, only for them to turn around to get addicted to drugs and alcohol? So why do these few brag about not needing one crutch, only to pick up another crutch? _______ Yes, I know that not all atheists are alcoholics or drug addicts. I am referring to the ones who are or have been? "What does atheism have to do with emotional stability? Do you really not understand the problem with your line of reasoning here? " Do you? Because the last I checked it is the atheist who say that Christians live in fear, need some invisible sky daddy to tell them what to do, and can't live without a crutch. They NEED God. Religion is the opiate of the masses. It is the atheists who don't need all of that. They can depend on themselves, rely on themselves. You can say that they are human too, I'll buy that. Just like all humans they too like to put others down to make themselves appear more stable. Vincent: Oh please, you all are like a 1000 monkeys in a cage throwing sh...t . As if I can keep track of all of it. All I know is that it all stinks. "Atheism means not believing in god. It doesn't imply anything else " I absolutely agree. To bad that opinion isn't shared by.... ...atheists.

Posted by: morporc on 2009-10-01, 03:00:17

Do you have any statistics on the relative risk for atheists and believers of becoming substance-dependent? Alcoholics Anonymous is, and has always been, a faith-based organisation. So are all the drug rehabilitation programmes I have ever visited. I have never heard of an atheist client to any of these organisations complaining about their prayer-directed sessions. I always assumed it was because they very rarely get atheists on their books.

Posted by: aaronmsl on 2009-10-01, 02:51:16

What does atheism have to do with emotional stability? Do you really not understand the problem with your line of reasoning here?

Posted by: D on 2009-10-01, 02:51:31

At least they're true to themselves and won't blame their problems on "god "...

Posted by: am][pm on 2009-10-01, 02:52:16

Atheists can be spiritual. just cos they don't believe in god doesn't mean they can't be spiritual.

Posted by: Metal Maniac on 2009-10-01, 02:52:29

Drugs can be used as emotional crutch, but it's for fun most of the time. Drugs are also used for meds, especially for people like you.

Posted by: Vincent K, Atheati Mad Scientist on 2009-10-01, 02:52:38

Point out where there are addicted atheists who specifically said, themselves, that they don't need any emotional crutches. Not other atheists who have said that about themselves, but a specific example of an addicted atheist claiming that. Go on. EDIT: In other words, no, you can't, so your premise fails miserably.

Posted by: Spunky The Metaphysical on 2009-10-01, 02:52:42

My beer is far more real than your god....

Posted by: Apothecary on 2009-10-01, 02:52:51

Wow..I'm astounded. None of the atheists so far even understand the point you're making..

Posted by: Athєist's Nightmarє on 2009-10-01, 02:53:40

Nihilistic despair of atheists is the reason most of them find solace in alcohol and drugs. In a way, I can't blame t hem... They need a painkiller to calm their heartache. It's kind of appropriate that their painkiller would be so materialistic, isn't it?

Posted by: Dharma Nature on 2009-10-01, 02:54:10

Atheism means not believing in god. It doesn't imply anything else. Not being a druggie I can't really answer, but I would point out that if 'god' is the answer to everything then there should be no christian druggies, which is clearly not the case.

Posted by: Light on 2009-10-01, 02:55:09

I believe in God and I like going out and getting pissed because it makes me feel better since I have no friends, girlfriend and my family doesn't talk to me.

Posted by: Jake on 2009-10-01, 02:55:24

Christianity was never meant to be a crutch for people to lean on. It was meant to be a burden for people to carry. In the end, the people who stay on the path and carry their burden with them will be rewarded. The cross is symbolic of that burden. People should carry the cross, not lean on it.

Posted by: NewlyBorn on 2009-10-01, 02:56:25

For the same reason some Christians are alcoholic and drug addicts! Jeremiah 25:27-28 (NIV) "Then tell them, “This is what the LORD Almighty, the God of Israel, says* (*to his own chosen people!): DRINK, GET DRUNK AND VOMIT, and fall to rise no more because of the sword I will send among you.� But if they refuse to take the cup from your hand* (*priest/ prophet/ preacher) and drink, tell them, 'This is what the LORD Almighty says: YOU MUST DRINK IT! God must be serving some cheap whiskey in this story! Only a Boozer God would insult anybody’s intelligence forcing them to drink to the point of VOMITING! Please, no matter what the Bible says, don’t overdo it! Heavy drinking is about the pattern in the Bible, and the dysfunctional Bible God loves to watch you drink until you VOMIT! The Bible God made King Solomon “the Wisest Man ever to set foot on this Earth!� And this is what he has to say about drinking in his book of Proverbs. Proverbs 31:6-7 (NIV) Give beer to those who are perishing, wine to those who are in anguish; let them drink and forget their poverty and remember their misery no more* (*I always hear all the opposite from any preacher, WHILE THEY DO DRINK, but discreetly in the closet, of course! They admit that the Bible favors drinking, “but it can get out of hand,� they say. So they feel justified preaching against drinking… Like Ted Habbard, the former Religious Adviser to President Bush would preach against homosexuality! And that is how Christianity is known for its bigotry!) Without liquor, the Bible God is powerless to help the poor and needy! He is much busier peeping what you do in bed than feeding the starving children in the world! Zachariah 9:17 (KJV) For how great is his goodness* (*God’s goodness), and how great is his beauty* (*God’s beauty)! Corn* (*fermented corn whiskey!) shall make the young men cheerful, and new wine the maids* (*even in Bible times, wining the ladies was most appropriate!). 1 Corinthians 9:4 (KJV) (Saint Paul says) - Have we not POWER to eat and to DRINK?* (*Yes, but most Christians today believe that Saint Paul is talking about grape juice!) God sets himself as an example of how much to drink! Numbers 28:7 (NIV) The accompanying drink offering is to be a quarter of a hin of FERMENTED DRINK (KJV "strong wine ") with each lamb* (*while the Jews were starving to death in the Promised Land Flowing with Milk and Honey, the Jewish Priests were sacrificing lambs by the thousands so you can imagine how many US Gallons of booze that is…) POUR OUT THE DRINK OFFERING TO THE LORD at the sanctuary* (*BTW, the “sanctuary� of The LORD must have smelled like a cheap bar joint with so much strong booze offering poured all over the Altar!). The Bible writers are telling us what it is like when this Boozer God wakes up in the morning with a terribly hangover… Psalm 78:65 “THEN THE LORD AWOKE AS FROM SLEEP, AS A MAN WAKES FROM THE STUPOR OF WINE� Yeah… after all that fermented drink and strong wine offerings… red eyes… vomiting all over like when he was forcing everybody else to drink until they vomit… cursing like Hell… lacking good judgment.... and ready to start killing Christians especially those who are not up to date with their tithes and offerings! Christians came up with the crazy idea of shutting down liquor stores and bars on Sunday mornings during worship hours! It is like slapping God’s face real hard for demanding his daily “strong drink offering!� Revelation 14:10-11 (NIV) [Jesus says] "he, too, will drink of the wine of God's fury, which has been poured full strength into the cup of his wrath.* (*sheer Boozer God talk! The Bible God sure beats God Bacchus!) Why do you think that God the Son Jesus Christ’s FIRST MIRACLE EVER was to change water into WINE? Why do you think God the Son Jesus Christ was sweating blood asking his Boozer Daddy God up in the sky to “pass the cup?� 2 Peter 1:21 (KJV) For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost* (*this statement comes as an epilogue to the Bible so you know that the Bible God in the person of the Holy Ghost inspired ALL that was written in it! It is like saying that Mickey Mouse inspired Walt Disney to write all about him!) Preachers won’t tell you this much because they know what to skim off the Bible so your faithful “giving to The LORD� won’t waiver! Christians hate atheists because they tell them just like it is in the Bible, without any “spiritually speaking� disfiguring! All the gratitude that I am getting for this transfer of knowledge is TDs! Christians ought to demand an honest answer from the clergy that they voluntarily support with at least 10% fleecing of their income! It is a well known scientific fact that RELIGION is a mental disorder characterized by abnormalities in the perception and/ or expression of reality. Distortions in perception may affect all five senses, especially in lower IQ people. It is a serious social disorder. In most severe cases, those affected are willing to kill and die, or support those who do. They can’t help to behave very silly in public on behalf of their religion. Among religious people of like faith and practice, they are the champions in their own delusion!

Posted by: lololol on 2009-10-01, 02:57:22

Then how about those christians who are alcoholics, drug abusers, and having sex scandals secretly in church?

Posted by: Ibrahim on 2009-10-01, 03:02:35

An emotional crutch such as drugs and alcohol is different from what an atheist would say is the spiritual crutch of religion. The use of drugs and alcohol is a man made device (or should one say vice ?) that seeks pleasure or escape only from the present moment of the existence of the user while many appear to employ religion (which is not necessarily the same as spirituality) as an escape from the pressures of the responsibility for one's own, self chosen actions. As the atheist believes that he or she has nothing to lose by the misuse of drugs and alcohol as in their belief death is the end of existence and this life is only to be lived for the pleasure, regardless of how momentary the same may be, that it will give rise to it would seem that they are more likely to be come addicts than say a "Christian " would. One must then ask how any one who believes in God, who believes in the Last Day and the eventual judgment of God upon all of creation could ever become an alcoholic or a drug user yet many of them seem to be alcoholics and many are also drug users and abusers? You began your premise with skewed logic, which might be understood as no logic at all. Ma'a salaam

Posted by: ninjacrumb on 2009-10-01, 03:03:05

A crutch OR something to get baked and play Xbox360 with. I prescribe to the latter.

Posted by: Yogi on 2009-10-01, 03:03:31

Why do Christians become drug addicts when they have the best crutch of all? drug and alochol problems are usually started by someone trying to be cool and fit in ,,, and end in addiction. they know no bounds of race,religion or gender.

Posted by: Cat on 2009-10-01, 03:09:30

Wow. Having been both an alcoholic, a druggie, and a Christian, I have to say you're full of shit. When I was using drugs and alcohol, it was to deal with my personal issues. It was a coping mechanism. It was a psychological thing, not a theological crisis, or a crisis of faith. Faith didn't have squat to do with it, unless it was the general cry of, "Why is God/ the world/ the universe doing this to me? " I WAS a Christian...it's funny, but since I've come to peace, spiritually, with my life (non-Christian spirituality), I don't lean on the addictions anymore. Hrm. Funny how that works. How do you explain that?

Posted by: sparky_dy on 2009-10-01, 03:09:36

Drugs and alcohol used in moderation (they're not necessarily, automatically addictive) are actually very good fun. But you have to maintain a wall of separation between Stoned Life and Real Life. What happens on Planet Bong stays on Planet Bong -- otherwise you have a problem. Believing things that aren't true can be quite fun too, and can even be practised in moderation (fiction books, films and TV for instance). Good writing means you can even hear the characters' accents as you read the words on the page (or maybe that's just me). But again, you have to distinguish between the fantasy and the reality. The problem is that some theists can't seem to get out of the mindset of their Holy Book and into the Real World. They think it actually applies now, and all the time; not just while they are in Church.

Posted by: dwgriffith101 on 2009-10-01, 08:09:16

I am curious as to what fundie book you got the idea that they were emotional addictions and not physical addictions. Sadly some one might actually believe you.